the fact that indian officials didn't immediately blame or cast doubt that it was pakistan suggests that they don't think it is. >> and also you just made a point we were talking ak. 200 million muslims in country of india makes india one of the largest -- the largest muslim country in the world? >> exactly. indonesia and india, countries with the largest number of muslims in the world. indians often present that evidence to westerners. >> sure. >> saying we know how to work closely with our multiple populations. we're a large democracy and see how things go so well. it doesn't always go so well in that country. >> move to syria. both in new york and washington we're obsess with the debt talks and defaulting and obviously for important reasons, but there's important developments from the obama administration regarding syria for the first time. i feel like we're close to the line where the obama administration is saying, hasan has to go. secretary clinton almost said it. >> what they're doing both in the case of syria and often in this arab spring is using an analytical word to send messa